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Questions, Conduct, & Feedback => Helpline => Topic started by: WVH on January 24, 2018, 03:23:19 PM

Title: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: WVH on January 24, 2018, 03:23:19 PM
As I understand it, if the owner of an artifact dies, the artifact will return to its creator.  What if the creator is dead?  Where will the artifact go?

If the answer is "its lost", then will the player's account be able to create / recreate the artifact?... why?
Title: Re: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: Andrew on January 24, 2018, 03:38:57 PM
Artifacts go to who a player gives them first. As it stands, unless they are explicitly killed by a first one, the artifact returns to the creating user right now on the holder's death. Tom didn't finish implementing the logic to tie them to the map, but it's on the TODO list.

It's not something that will come with the next update, but the next update will shine some light on how one would go about this. I'd also need to figure out mechanics for these things actually being found by someone else.
Title: Re: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: WVH on January 24, 2018, 08:34:02 PM
As it stands, unless they are explicitly killed by a first one, the artifact returns to the creating user right now on the holder's death.

Just to make sure I understand, the "user" is the player account and not the orig. creator of the item as it is listed in a characters history?

The creating character is dead and the item holder is blighted.  My other character wants the item...so has to go and capture the blighted character.  Before I allow that to happen, I want to make sure that accidentally killing the character in the battle that has to take place to capture her, will not force the artifact to be lost because the game can not find its creator.

So if user means my account, cool! If you intended to say creator... not as cool.
Title: Re: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: Demivar on January 24, 2018, 08:39:53 PM
Just to make sure I understand, the "user" is the player account and not the orig. creator of the item as it is listed in a characters history?

The creating character is dead and the item holder is blighted.  My other character wants the item...so has to go and capture the blighted character.  Before I allow that to happen, I want to make sure that accidentally killing the character in the battle that has to take place to capture her, will not force the artifact to be lost because the game can not find its creator.

So if user means my account, cool! If you intended to say creator... not as cool.
It returns to the account.
Title: Re: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: De-Legro on January 24, 2018, 09:50:55 PM
Can only talk for my artifact, but it has no listed "creating" character. The first mention of any character is the character it was first assigned to.
Title: Re: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: Andrew on January 25, 2018, 12:29:51 PM
Just to make sure I understand, the "user" is the player account and not the orig. creator of the item as it is listed in a characters history?

The creating character is dead and the item holder is blighted.  My other character wants the item...so has to go and capture the blighted character.  Before I allow that to happen, I want to make sure that accidentally killing the character in the battle that has to take place to capture her, will not force the artifact to be lost because the game can not find its creator.

So if user means my account, cool! If you intended to say creator... not as cool.

Characters do not create artifacts. Users do. Users then choose to place the artifact with one of their characters. For now, unless the game is certain that someone could take it (via kill or execution), artifacts return to the user on holder death. This will eventually change, but no idea when.
Title: Re: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: WVH on January 25, 2018, 02:56:40 PM
Awesome.  Thanks everyone
Title: Re: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: Ehndras on January 27, 2018, 08:43:57 PM
How do we re-assign a "lost" artifact? I can't find the "Tear of Armok" after I killed off Urist Tarzath, Emperor of the Children of Armor :(
Title: Re: Artifacts - Dead creator
Post by: Andrew on January 27, 2018, 10:56:35 PM
The same way you assigned it originally, through your user account menus: http://mightandfealty.com/en/artifacts/owned