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Realms Chat / Re: Recruiting for a new Realm
« Last post by Ayruin on February 21, 2018, 05:32:12 AM »
Great, please check your messages.
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Realms Chat / Re: Recruiting for a new Realm
« Last post by Bluarianknight on February 21, 2018, 03:00:55 AM »
That sounds like an incredibly fun time, count me in.
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Realms Chat / Recruiting for a new Realm
« Last post by Ayruin on February 21, 2018, 02:43:49 AM »
I have recently been granted a good deal of land to form a Arabic themed merchant realm. Basic plan is a bit of a mishmash right of Italian merchant houses/lords combined with a bit of Arab background, though no deserts. I am looking for anyone that would be interested in joining the realm and helping to establish the required diplomatic/trading links we are going to need to make things work.
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Conduct & Design Discussion / Re: M&F Changelog
« Last post by Andrew on February 17, 2018, 09:45:06 PM »
(double reserved -- just in case!)
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General Discussion / Re: Why M&F peaked so young
« Last post by De-Legro on February 12, 2018, 12:01:28 AM »
Yeah when my last knight never answered and literally ran around with the people raiding my settlements it pretty much confirmed that person was a spy.

Someone running around with the Hawk raiders? First I heard of that. The main thing I heard during their raid in Ascalon was they were constantly worried about imminent starvation and couldn't group together enough to properly support each other.
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General Discussion / Re: Why M&F peaked so young
« Last post by Dystopian on February 11, 2018, 11:49:40 PM »
Yeah when my last knight never answered and literally ran around with the people raiding my settlements it pretty much confirmed that person was a spy.
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General Discussion / Re: Why M&F peaked so young
« Last post by De-Legro on February 11, 2018, 11:35:17 PM »
I mean when more than half of the people who take Knight Offers are spies, its a problem.

How do you prove someone is a spy and not just one of the 90% of characters that simply never talk. Or am I looking at it wrong and 90% of characters are really spies? Honestly this sounds like more then a little hyperbole. Either that or all the people taking Hawk knight offers are just terrible, terrible spies. Though I suppose we might simply be terrible at determining they are spies.
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General Discussion / Re: Why M&F peaked so young
« Last post by Andrew on February 11, 2018, 11:30:11 PM »
So, I've a few ideas to address these problems, and yes I recognize them as such. Firstly, the new player arrival experience needs changed, and I've talked about this elsewhere. If I had more time, I'd repeat it here. Basically, arrival to the realm as an unaligned, but part of the realm, first one, then choose from there, with having already gotten some sort of brief on what the realm is like.

Second, with that first change, you'll no longer drop out of the realm if you liege quits/dies/whatevers, as the game will track what realm you're part of via a new primary means of figuring it out.

Third, I'm looking to get away from this whole fear of unknown people a bit by adding dynasties, which will be the next major update after this one. I can't gaurantee it'll make people less paranoid, but it should make it easier for them to trust people.

As far as trusting people goes, if someone wants to make a separate topic about that, I'm all ears (or eyes, as is the case here). If someone has given some thought about how we can prevent spies from learning things so easily or has some idea about how we'd encourage people to not be so paranoid, I'm willing to hear about it.

Regardles, Ayruin, I'm sorry that's how the experience in your first two realms went. It's not an attitude I encourage, but I'm only seriously active in one realm.
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General Discussion / Re: Why M&F peaked so young
« Last post by Dystopian on February 11, 2018, 11:27:49 PM »
I mean when more than half of the people who take Knight Offers are spies, its a problem.
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General Discussion / Re: Why M&F peaked so young
« Last post by Ayruin on February 11, 2018, 11:04:00 PM »
As you can see I don't generally post here, or on any forums given their predilection to simply be cesspools of insults. However if we are talking why the game struggles to attract players I can share my experience so far. I joined the game through a knight offer, my liege says little to me but sets me up with some of his scrub land estates and tells me to go and claim some of the better slumbering estates nearby, which I do before being told by others in the realm that I have claimed too many, despite not even hitting the settlement restriction for two characters on a free account. My liege then decides he had enough and quits. Next thing anyone says to me is that I am supposed to give up all my land to some other character because I didn't realize that with my liege leaving I was supposed to organize an oath to someone else in the hierarchy. Least when I point out that I had no idea they relented and tell me to travel to their settlement to give an oath which I do. However I was not active in this supposedly casual game for 6 days and receive this

 by redacted on 16-44-6 (February 6, 2018 21:09)   Lord redacted I certainly would like to trust you, but the situation at current has become quite volatile due to attacks by redacted and my ill advised advances towards Lord redacted. If the redacted move because you are here watching my movements I will have no choice but to question your loyalty. You have not responded in quite a while and sound quite similar both to Sir redacted and Sir redacted before you. Please respond and join us in arms! May the Gods back our cause.
Lord redacted of redacted


If that is at all indicative of the state of the game in other realms no wonder you have a problem. Quite possibly there is a good historical reason for people to be so paranoid, but quite plainly if you can't move past it, you have next to no chance of being able to grow your numbers. My experience in a second realm is only slightly better, my direct liege there at least talks, but the rest of the realm is actively hostile or dismissive of anyone that isn't part of the top hierarchy.
 
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