List/permission does not seem to work

[Endrosz]

I have tried to set up another character (not affiliated with a realm) to manage an estate while the lord is away. I have the following in place.







So the permissions do not seem to work. No management actions are available to Tunde. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?

[Andre]

Pretty sure it's just not implemented yet. Though construction, mobilize and resupply should be working, there just isn't any way to limit them.

[Endrosz]

So, is there a bug or not? Absolutely no permissions work, as shown above. The only one I care about is settlement management, and according to your feedback, that one is implemented.


Not whiny, just curious.

[Andrew]

Manage trade isn't implemented yet, and I don't believe manage troops is either (but manage recruitment, if memory serves, provides the same functions), but with those permissions they should still have access for things.

Just to confirm, Rindobana (id 375) is the settlement you want to be able to be managed by Tunde Csizmadia (id 9620), correct?

[Endrosz]

Correct.

[Andrew]

For the first image you provided, what's the address for that page? (Specifically, I'm looking for the ID of the permission list you're editing).

I ask because I can't find a permission list entry containing the character ID associated with Tunde, and "Family" as a permission list name is apparently quite common--there are 83 permission lists with that name, to be precise.

[Andrew]

Nevermind. Found it by looking up what permissions were attached to that settlement. Now, to figure out why it applied permissions for ID 9619 instead of ID 9620....

Lets see if I can solve a multi-year old bug tonight.

[Andrew]

I can confirm this as a bug.

From the looks of things you made two characters named Tunde Csizmadia, and the permissions system assigns permissions by finding the first character with a matching name, which is unfortunately for you, the other character you made that is now dead.

I can't say how long fixing this will take, but as an interim workaround, please rename your character to something unique.

[Demivar]

That's the same bug that happened to Markus Kruber a while ago, only mentioned it on Discord though.


This is good to hear as it confirms that I was not slowly going insane.

[Endrosz]

Aha, okay, thanks for the quick investigation and workaround solution. Will try that. It was on my mind to suggest a feature to permanently remove members of a family, now there's one more reason for that.

[Andrew]

Alright, so I've figured out how to make the permissions system filter out dead characters from being granted permissions. This won't go live for some time though, as we're still working out other things.